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Hi and welcome to the A16Z podcast. This conversation looks at where we are now

in self-driving cars and in the big trend of autonomous and self-driving cars of all levels,

from data to mapping to interfaces to security and more. Moderated by A16Z partner Frank Chen,

the conversation, part of our November 2017 summit event,

includes, in the order in whose voice you will hear first, Kasser Yunus, CEO of Applied

Intuition, James Wu, CEO of DeepMap, and Taggart Matheson, director of product at Lyft.

So on the scale from crazy, 13 years, to myopic, never, when does self-driving

start? It's not going to be one of these things where we wake up one day and like autonomy is here.

You know, every two years, every one year, we're going to just make that incremental move. And I think

when the CT6 launches with Super Cruiserues or the Tesla autopilot,

and then maybe 10 years from now, I will wake up and you have that option to go to the dealership

and buy a car that does everything we think autonomy does. The major OEMs, in Europe, US,

and Japan, other places, if you look at the timetable, it's about 2020, 2021. They're going to start

shipping level four vehicles. I think it's probably happened much sooner than 13 years for

everybody to have the capability to use a level four technology. Over the next couple of years,

you're going to start to see very small

pockets where these vehicles are in fact operating at a level four capability. But I think the

challenge here is there's a cost aspect. If you look at the sensor suite on these vehicles, it's not

economically feasible. Two, once you get into the world of a large-scale deployment of vehicles,

it's not just about the car being able to navigate the environment.

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