Hi, Jordo.

Hi.

You aren't Dan.

No, but I am the talented Wells brother this week.

Yes, you had to be the talented Wells brother.

Did they know that story?

I don't think we've ever talked about it outside of maybe early writing excuses jokes.

Because Dan has a brother named Rob. They're both writers.

Rob was published before him, wasn't he? Yeah. And he decided to have an author website.

And I don't know if he did it. He joked about calling it the talented Wells brother.

No, that was my joke. That was your joke? My joke was I was going to go out and they were

discussing about something related to that. And my joke was I was going to go get the

website, the talented Wells brother, and whichever one was nicest to me that week is who I'd forward

that URL into their like their Amazon page or their web page. And I just rotated and use it to get

them to do favors for me. So if you don't know who this is, this is my brother Jordan. Hi, people,

on the internet. Jordan, his voice may be familiar to some of you because he was actually the

producer on writing excuses for our first few years. Yeah, probably about first four or five. Yeah,

I think about four. This is the first podcast that Dan and I ever did.

We had Howard Taylor and then eventually Mary Robinette Cole.

And it's happened because Gordo was taking a class in college.

It was like, hey, podcasts are this new thing.

Brandon, you should do one.

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