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Worldly

A war between Israel and Iran could really happen

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.4 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2018

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s over-the-top media blitz designed to sway President Trump to nix the Iran nuclear deal and about how Israel’s shadow conflict with Iran is threatening to explode into a new Mideast war. On Elsewhere, they discuss the Ukrainian government’s abrupt decision to stop cooperating with the Mueller probe after Trump agreed to sell the country advanced US-made missiles. Yochi awards Paul Manafort the gold medal in the Trump Corruption Olympics, Jenn insists ledgers are “sexy,” and Zack busts out some Latin. Links: We spent the first part of the episode discussing this powerpoint speech from Netanyahu, but you can watch it in full here. You can also watch Netanyahu’s full Fox and Friends interview. Zack wrote a piece about that interview, if you’d like some more background and context. We reference it a few times in the show. And here’s Zack’s piece about the IAEA report that already documented a lot of the things covered in Netanyahu’s presentation. Yochi mentioned that he’d covered the finalization of the Iran deal under President Obama. Zack has also covered the Iran deal and was suspicious of claims that the Obama administration made. We got a bit technical this episode about Iran building bases, so here’s some more background information on that. Yochi mentioned Neri Zilber’s piece about Iran and Israel’s shadow war. You can read that piece in full here. Jenn and Zack were talking about the ways that the history of the Iranian regime informs its approach to the Iran deal and to Israel. Here’s a reading suggestion from Jenn on that. Here’s the 2015 Foreign Policy piece by Phillip Smyth that Jenn mentioned about Iran’s plans to use Syria as a new front in its fight against Israel Yochi quoted a Ukrainian official at the beginning of Elsewhere. That quote came from this New York Times piece. For a slightly different take on Ukraine’s intelligence sharing with the Mueller investigation, read this New York magazine piece. The team talked about Michael Cohen’s many, many scams. And here’s more about the mystery of who took pro-Ukrainian language out of the Republican Party’s 2016 platform. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Worldly.

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Vox's weekly guide to the most important stories in the world,

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part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Today,

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We're going to show you something that the world has never seen before.

0:20.6

This was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday.

0:24.0

We're going to show you Iran's secret nuclear files.

0:28.0

Netanyahu was on what looks like a TV set in a government building in Jerusalem.

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He was literally standing in front government building in Jerusalem.

0:32.8

He was literally standing in front of a PowerPoint slide that had the Iranian flag, the

0:37.3

yellow nuclear waste symbol, and the words atomic archive in big letters.

0:42.3

The speech was directed at an audience of one, President Trump,

0:45.3

who's about to decide whether to pull the US out of the Iran nuclear deal. But Israel

0:50.4

isn't just fighting against the nuclear deal. It's also literally fighting against

0:54.6

Iran, inside of Syria, bombing Iranian bases, and killing Iranian troops. That could set off a full

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and catastrophic war between Israel and Iran.

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But before we get into all of that, let's get into Netanyahu's strange and dramatic press

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conference in Israel.

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So Jen, what was it all about? Yeah, so this press conference was legitimately wild.

1:15.0

The presentation was amazing.

1:17.0

There was one slide of the PowerPoint that literally just said

1:20.0

Iran lied in giant letters and that was the entire slide. It's just a plain white slide.

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