America is out of the Iran deal. Now what?

Worldly

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News, Politics, News Commentary

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🗓️ 10 May 2018

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

On a special episode of Worldly, Yochi, Jenn, and Zack talk about President Trump's historic and dangerous decision to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, a move that angered America's closest allies and potentially set the stage for a new Mideast war. Israel and Iran started trading blows within a day of Trump's decision, and the situation could quickly get worse as American friends and enemies adjust to the new reality Trump has created. Yochi compares economic sanctions to football, Zack offers a hot take for the ages, and Jenn says the technical term for a trade war is "some real shit." Zack’s big explainer about what it means that we’ve withdrawn from the Iran deal … and some more context in a quicker form from Alex Ward. Yochi quoted Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman’s statements on the recent strikes. Here’s more background on that quote. As Jenn mentioned, we touched on some of the implications of an Iran-Israel war last episode. Alex also has a great piece on this that touches on the recent strikes. Yochi mentioned a previous strike that killed seven Iranian military personnel. Soon after becoming the new US Ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell tweeted, “German companies doing business in Iran should wind down operations immediately.” Yochi talked about this tweet and the response it elicited from a former German ambassador. Zack dived into some fun wonky policy surrounding “blocking regulations” and how Europe might use them to deal with the current sanctions. Here’s the piece Zack was quoting when he said that an expert believes the Iran deal would have kept Iran from getting a nuclear bomb until at least 2041. John Bolton’s 2015 New York Times opinion piece “To Stop Iran’s Bomb, Bomb Iran.” We played a clip of Bolton talking about that op-ed. It was from an interview he did with Jon Stewart back in 2015. Jenn mentioned a more recent op-ed Bolton wrote for the Washington Post slamming the Iran deal. She also mentioned that the International Atomic Energy Agency and a variety of other experts agreed that the Iran deal was effective. Yochi mentioned that President George W. Bush had had a request for bunker-busting bombs from Israel and declined. Here’s an old New York Times article with more details. Here’s the “winners and losers of the Iran deal” piece that Yochi suggested. For more information on the Iran deal, please check out Wednesday’s episode of Today, Explained. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to Worldly.
0:07.0	Fox's Weekly Guide to the most important stories in the world, part of the Vox Media Podcast network.
0:14.7	So it's usually pretty hard to know whether Donald Trump would actually do what he says he'll do.
0:19.4	But this week, he kept one of his biggest and most dangerous promises. He pulled the US out of a historic
0:24.6	nuclear deal with Iran. The Iran deal is defective at its core. So there was Trump being
0:31.2	subtle as always. The deal had basically frozen Iran's
0:34.1	nuclear program in exchange for lifting really harsh economic sanctions and we'll get
0:38.6	into this a bit later but pretty much the entire world thought it was
0:40.8	working and pretty much the entire world thought Iran was keeping its word.
0:44.0	Which is why the decision is one of those rare ones that pisses off pretty much everyone.
0:48.0	The Europeans are angry because they begged him to stay the deal and he didn't.
0:51.0	The Iranians are angry because they thought
0:53.2	they could trust the US to remain in the agreement. They couldn't and they're now
0:56.4	threatening to resume their program. And there's talk of a new mid-east war and so
1:00.4	short term that isn't just talk because just in the past couple of months we had an Iranian
1:05.2	drone fly into Israeli airspace Israel shot it down Israeli planes flew into Syria, one Israeli plane was shot down,
1:10.8	and last night you had a really serious exchange of fire between
1:15.2	Israel and Iran that was historic because it was the first time Iran itself had
1:19.0	fired at Israel. Iran fired 20 missiles into Israel. Israel shot down four of them.
1:23.6	Israel responded with dozens of airstrikes across pretty much all of Syria.
1:27.7	They struck 70 Iranian sites.
1:30.3	This is a huge number, and just to you a sense of how Israel sees this and talks about this
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