The ideology behind the Toronto terror attack, explained

Worldly

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News, Politics, News Commentary

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🗓️ 26 April 2018

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Yochi, Zack, and special guest Dara Lind discuss Monday's bloody terror attack in Toronto, which was carried out by a member of a fringe anti-woman movement called "incel," short for "involuntary celibate." On Elsewhere, they talk about how French President Emmanuel Macron used an official visit to Washington to charm President Trump in private and then bash him subtly in public. Zack explains black pills, Dara says there's a cheat code for Donald Trump, and Yochi can't shake the mental image of Trump brushing dandruff off Macron's shoulder. References! Throughout the episode, we’re drawing on Zack’s explainer on incel. Here’s a good breakdown of Monday’s attack and how it unfolded. Zack mentioned that Reddit banned the first incel forum. Here’s some more information about that. Yochi talked about school shooters emulating the Columbine shooters, and the ways research around that topic might apply here. This New Yorker piece walks through that research. The response to Elliot Rodger written by the father of one of his victims. Watch President Macron and President Trump’s dandruff exchange. You can also watch Macron’s full speech to Congress, or read some of the most interesting quotes from that speech and some analysis of his visit. Zack and Dara discussed Macron’s election. Here’s more background on that. Yochi mentioned awkward handshakes several times. Here’s a rundown of some of Trump’s many awkward handshakes. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 24/7, free, and confidential support for people in distress. 1-800-273-8255 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to Worldly.
0:08.0	the Vox's guide to the most important stories in the world,
0:12.0	part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:14.0	Jen is out, so Zach and I are joined by our friend Dara Lind from The Weeds.
0:18.0	Hey, Derek.
0:19.0	Hello.
0:20.0	So on Monday, a man named Alec Minician plowed his van into a crowd of pedestrians in downtown Toronto.
0:25.8	He killed 10 and he wounded dozens more.
0:28.4	And Canadian law enforcement found a Facebook post he wrote just before the attack. It called for revolution and
0:34.4	appraised the mass murderer he saw as an inspiration. But here's the thing.
0:38.0	Minissian didn't belong to ISIS. He wasn't praising Osama bin Laden. He was a member of something else entirely, an online
0:45.7	subculture called Insel, short for Involuntarily Selibit. The man he praised, Elliot Roger,
0:52.3	had killed six women in California in 2014 and wrote a long anti-woman
0:57.2	manifesto. Today we're going to talk about what InSell is, what InSell isn't, and whether
1:02.3	we need to change how we think about terrorism.
1:04.7	So, Zach, you have a very good, very long piece about in cell.
1:08.4	Walk us through, it's an internet subculture, but a very specific kind of internet
1:12.0	subculture.
1:13.0	Right, so in cell people hang out on a variety of different places, right?
1:20.0	They have a dedicated sub-reddit called Brain Cells. They have a dedicated subreddit called Brain Cells.
1:23.8	They have a specialized part of 4chan,
1:26.8	which is like a super trolly cruel internet website.
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