Hey, friends, welcome back to another episode of Theologram. My guest today is Dr. Christopher Landau,

who is a former BBC World Service Religious Affairs correspondent who left journalism to train as a

minister in the Church of England. He has a doctorate in Christian ethics from University of Oxford,

and he wrote his dissertation on a theology of disagreement. And that's kind of the main reason why I wanted

to have Christopher on, because I think a lot of us are asking questions about how should we actually

disagree with each other in a way that is godly and healthy and fruitful. And so that's kind of the

focus of our conversation. We also get into

applying a theology disagreement with questions around sexuality in the church, specifically his

context in England, the Church of England. So that's where we end up later in this episode. And he also

published a book called a booklet called compassionate orthodoxy and sexuality seeking grace

and truth and disagreement where he applied his theology of disagreement in the context of

sexuality debate so please welcome to the show for the first time the one and only dr christopher

landau all right hello christopher um All right, hello, Christopher.

Welcome to Theology and Arra.

I am so excited to talk to you because your work, I mean, overlaps with the work that I've been doing for a while.

And I, without being extremely familiar with your work, just looking out from a distance,

it sounds like we're going to overlap quite a bit.

But first, before we dive in, let's just tell our audience who you are and how you get

into, how did you get into the work that you're currently doing?

Yeah, so my day job, if you like, is as director of a renewal charity here in the

UK called Resource, which grew out of the charismatic renewal and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit

within the mainline denominational churches. And our focus has always been about what that

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