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Theology in the Raw

How to Learn from Experts and Enemies: Dr. A.J. Swoboda

Theology in the Raw

Preston Sprinkle

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

A.J. Swoboda (Ph.D., Birmingham) is an associate professor of Bible and Theology at Bushnell University and lead mentor for the Doctor of Ministry Program on Spiritual Formation and Soul Care at Friends University. He is the author of many books, including The Gift of Thorns (Zondervan), After Doubt (Brazos), and the recently released: A Teachable Spirit: The Virtue of Learning from Strangers, Enemies, and Absolutely Anyone. He hosts the “Slow Theology” podcast (w/ Dr. Nijay Gupta) and writes the widely read “Low-Level Theologian” Substack. Join the Theology in the Raw community for as little as $5/month to get access to premium content at patreon.com/theologyintheraw Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, friends, welcome back to another episode of Theology and around my guest today is my dear friend, Dr. A.J. Swoboda, who is an associate professor of Bible and theology at Bushnell University and a lead mentor for the Doctor of Ministry program on Spiritual Formation and Soul Care at Friends University. He's the author of many books, and he is indeed among my favorite Christian authors. Several of his books include

0:23.3

The Gift of Thorns After Doubt and the recently released a Teachable Spirit, the Virtue of

0:28.9

Learning from Strangers, Enemies, and Absolutely Anyone. He also co-hosts the Slow Theology

0:36.2

Podcast with Dr. N. J. Gupta, another frequent theology

0:39.3

in the raw guest, and also writes a widely read low-level theologian substack.

0:45.6

We talk all about his latest book, A Teachable Spirit.

0:49.4

How should Christians learn?

0:51.4

Who should Christians learn from?

0:53.3

And how do we go about sorting through

0:56.1

the chaos of all the information that is available to us? So please welcome back yet again to

1:03.0

the show, the one and only doctor, AJ Subbole. My dear friend, AJ Schwaboda, welcome back for the, do we have a number?

1:19.9

Is it at least half a dozen?

1:21.6

A number to you, Preston, is a thousand in my heart.

1:25.7

It doesn't matter.

1:26.6

I'm always with you,

1:27.8

everywhere I go. Even to the end of the age. I do think this is five or six. I do think it's five or six.

1:34.1

It's up there. It's up there. Yeah. You are, I mean, you go back at least six years. Oh, geez, bro. Oh, geez. Oh, gee. I think the first time you had me on was a good eight years ago.

1:46.2

And we talked about a Gloria Stark a long time ago because you were really nice about that book.

1:50.8

That's a brilliant book.

1:52.4

And you called me your favorite Christian author, which you stopped saying about six years ago.

1:58.8

So I think you found somebody else.

2:00.7

But for a season there, a hot second, a hot second, I was your favorite person.

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