A self-fulfilling-worst-case-scenario in Afghanistan

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🗓️ 18 August 2021

⏱️ 27 minutes

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As the Taliban consolidate control in Kabul, all eyes are on the U.S. in Taipei, Kyiv and around the world.

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0:00.0	Hello there, I'm Chuck Todd and this is the Chuck Todd cast.
0:09.0	We're still seeing the images from Afghanistan where the Taliban are consolidating control
0:13.2	and while the White House continues to play cleanup, two big questions remain.
0:17.2	Was there any way to avoid the chaos we saw in Kabul?
0:20.1	But more importantly, what does this all mean for America's foreign policy going forward?
0:23.5	What is it our organizing principle going forward?
0:26.3	How does the fall of Afghanistan look for those watching in Taiwan?
0:29.9	You crank me and more.
0:31.6	Well, a ruse.
0:32.9	Well join me today, Jim Steinberg.
0:34.4	He was Deputy Secretary of State for President Obama and Bill Clinton's Deputy National Security
0:38.2	Advisor and Bruce Jensels.
0:40.1	He's a professor of public policy at Duke University and the author of The Peace Bankers,
0:44.3	Leadership Lessons from 20th Century State'smanship.
0:48.1	Jim and Bruce, welcome to the Todd cast and I'm saying you guys off air.
0:54.1	I'm going to dive into all the different ways, all the different moments where we could
1:01.2	make a case of what went wrong with Afghanistan.
1:04.3	But it really is a what now.
1:07.2	And I guess to start that conversation, Jim, was there, is Joe Biden right was basically
1:14.5	this bit of chaos inevitable no matter when we left?
1:17.5	I'm not sure the specific level of chaos was inevitable.
1:21.6	I think that the general outcome probably was.
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