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The Dispatch Podcast

A Party in Trump's Image | Interview: Patrick Ruffini

The Dispatch Podcast

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Politics, News

4.43K Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Egger is joined by Patrick Ruffini, a Republican pollster and co-founder of Echelon Insights. The two discuss the shift in non-white voting habits, how Trump activated the populist coalition on the right, and the role of pro-life politics in that coalition. Show notes: -New York Times/Siena Poll -Patrick Ruffini's profile at Echelon Insights Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the dispatch podcast I'm Andrew Egger editor of our dispatch

0:04.2

politics newsletter and I'm joined today by Patrick Raffini founding partner of the

0:08.5

GOP polling firm Echelon Insights he's the author of a new book, Party of the People,

0:13.6

Inside the Multiracial Populist Coalition, remaking the GOP,

0:18.0

which I'm very excited to spend a little time talking about with him today. Patrick, welcome to the Despite Loggast.

0:37.0

Andrew, great to be here.

0:40.0

So this is a book that exists in large part to take a stab at answering a question I think a lot of people had after the 2020 election, which is,

0:48.0

how is it that Donald Trump, despite throwing out the previous conventional wisdom

0:52.8

that Republicans needed to soften their message

0:55.0

to appeal more to non-white voters,

0:56.9

sparking a whole political movement essentially

0:58.9

based around running up the score

1:01.1

among the white working class suddenly turns around in

1:03.6

20 running against Joe Biden and although he ultimately loses he manages to

1:07.3

pull away more non-white working class voters than any Republican in a

1:11.0

generation so can you walk us through how you approach tackling that question

1:14.7

and essentially give us the elevator pitch

1:17.2

of the thesis you hit on?

1:19.0

So I work in Republican politics,

1:20.6

and I remember the aftermath of the 2012 election.

1:25.0

And, you know, Mitt Romney is kind of treated as a hero now, right,

1:29.5

to many of his former critics,

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