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Music Hello and welcome back to Big Mood, Little Mood.

I am your host, Daniel M. Lavery, and with me in the studio this week is Julian K. Jarbo.

The author of the Lambda Award-winning short story collection,

Everyone on the Moon is essential personnel.

More of their work can be found on their website, Juliank.jarbo.com. Julian, hello and welcome to the show. Hi, Danny. Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you so much for bringing your award-winning self into the studio. I know. That's so fun to put in a bio now. Now I can put it right there and be like, actually, um, as a person of award-winning

experience. Yeah. As a person of literary award history. No, yeah, I don't know. It's, it's so fun because

I'm always of two minds about these things. Either awards are very fake or my friends are winning them, and so then they're real.

And so it's fun. They're fun. You can opt into the fun of that. Oh, yeah. No, if someone I know and

like is winning an award, it's just a great little extra that makes life fun. And if, you know,

nobody I know won an award, it's a deeply troubling system that prioritizes achievement over, you know, the human spirit. And we should all immediately move to a farm.

Yes, exactly. It's good if it's me and my people and it's bad if I don't know you.

I don't know if it's bad if it's not my friends, but I just don't care. If I don't, if there's like only books winning

awards that I'm like, what is this? I'm just kind of like, whatever. No, good is happening to

people I know. God is I don't know you. Yeah. What could be simpler than that? I can't see that

going badly at all. Yeah. Anyway, let's move on completely from this topic before I say something silly. Let's do. I'm excited to talk about among other things, you know, certain forms of like me and my people good, everyone else bad, as well as, you know, how to how to avoid thinking along such lines.

Yeah. I am I think especially interested today in people who are considering or contemplating, do I break a tie

completely?

Do I have to disavow someone in order to break a tie completely?

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