Boundaries and Bottom Lines
Big Mood, Little Mood with Daniel M. Lavery
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4.4 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 27 July 2021
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Danny Lavery welcomes author Rebecca Carroll, who recently published her critically acclaimed memoir, Surviving the White Gaze.
Lavery and Carroll give advice to a letter writer who is wondering how to distance herself from her abusive mom. Also, Carroll goes in depth about the experiences that inspired her memoir, and a lighting round question about a conservative co-worker.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening ad-free on Amazon music. |
| 0:03.4 | Just a reminder that Big M. Little Mood with Daniel M. Lavery happens twice a week. |
| 0:08.0 | Slate Plus members get an additional mini-episode or Little Big Mood every Friday. |
| 0:12.8 | Sign up now to listen at slate.com slash mood. Hello and welcome back to Big M. Little M. Lavery. |
| 0:41.8 | With me in the studio this week is Rebecca Carroll, the author of several books about race in America, |
| 0:47.3 | including the award-winning Sugar in the Raw, voices of young black girls in America. |
| 0:51.8 | She recently published her memoir, Surviving the White Gays, |
| 0:55.1 | which has received widespread critical acclaim. Rebecca, welcome and thank you so much for being here. |
| 1:01.1 | Thank you for having me. I'm thrilled to be here. I can't tell you how much I have been looking |
| 1:05.7 | forward to this, really since your event earlier this year with Nicole Chung, who has also written a memoir about |
| 1:13.9 | adoption and race that I think is genuinely genre-changing. That was one of my absolute favorite |
| 1:22.0 | conversations. She's so fantastic and so bright and gracious. And also, I just feel like she and I both, I think, are able to use our stories and our experiences as transracial adoptees and build it into a bigger, larger conversation. |
| 1:41.6 | Because our stories of adoption are bigger than adoption. And I just really |
| 1:47.3 | value and appreciate that about her. You know, you are very much preaching to the choir on that |
| 1:52.8 | one. I also admire her tremendously and think she does something that almost no other writers |
| 1:59.4 | can pull off in quite the way that she does. |
| 2:01.8 | But I'm also just especially excited what both of your books seem to have done in terms of, |
| 2:05.9 | I don't know how to say this without using a phrase that I hate, which is like changing the |
| 2:09.6 | conversation, just because what on earth does that mean? |
| 2:12.3 | But it does seem like at a really general public level, like mass conversations about adoptions, there seems to |
| 2:21.6 | have been a like crack in the door, whereas five or ten years ago, it did not seem like you |
| 2:26.2 | could discuss it on like a national level without just sort of going with the party line of, |
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