The Billionaire Who Thinks We Care Too Much About People
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 3 July 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
As the Fourth of July approaches, Esau and Tish Harrison Warren reflect on what patriotism means today, especially for Christians who feel caught between critique and love of country. Then, Tish introduces the idea of "big church privilege," and explores what's gained and lost in the shift from large, well-resourced congregations to smaller, more intimate communities. Finally, they break down Peter Thiel's recent comments about stagnation, progress, and humanity's future. What happens when tech leaders try to achieve perfection without God?
0:00 - Theme Song
0:58 - 4th of July
12:16 - Small Church Privilege
26:08 - Sponsor - No Small Endeavor - Award-winning podcast where theologians, philosophers, and best-selling authors talk about faith with Lee C. Camp. Start listening today: https://pod.link/1513178238
27:35 - Peter Tiel's Eschatology
43:38 - End Credits
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Esau McCauley podcast. |
| 0:08.6 | I'm your host, Issaa McCauley. |
| 0:09.8 | Today we're joined on the podcast with Tish Harrison Warren, author, mother, priest. |
| 0:16.7 | What else should I call you? |
| 0:19.3 | I mean, that's it. |
| 0:20.1 | That's it. |
| 0:20.6 | And oh, oh, I forgot. There's also some. I have to introduce the other person. There's another person on the podcast. Issa. Yes. Tish, are you aware of how Esau treats me on this podcast? All I did was, oh, sorry. No, I didn't mean the other person in a negative way. I mean, like, I've introduced one person. Just feels like when you don't use the person's name. It's not in the other guy. And I was about to say producer Mike. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's me. Yes. And also on the podcast today, we have producer Mike. And we're happy to have you on the podcast. We're great. I'm happy to be here. You're here every week. I'm glad to have you. |
| 0:54.5 | I know. |
| 0:54.6 | It's great. |
| 0:55.0 | It's good. |
| 0:55.2 | This is great. |
| 0:56.0 | So, since when this podcast comes out, we'll be on the verge of Fourth of July. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. And so I thought we might open up the podcast by asking ourselves, I know we live in complicated times. and I'm wondering, is there anything patriotic that you still do, that you participate in? |
| 1:14.6 | I'm like, is there anything patriotic that you still do, |
| 1:13.8 | that you participate in? Like, you know, what do you do to mark, even not the Fourth of July, |
| 1:18.4 | anything that helps you wrap yourself in the flag a little bit? I mean, when it comes to sports, |
| 1:24.1 | like at a worldwide scale, like the, I don't know when the next world cup is because i'm not |
| 1:28.4 | that big of a soccer fan but literally a year and it's in america oh i'm excited i will be |
| 1:33.0 | very patriotic during that week two weeks i don't know did you know the world cup was in america |
| 1:38.6 | i know that you say that i do remember that but i would not have been able to come up with happening here It's happening here in the United States. We're going to win the first time ever. We're not going to. We're going to win a couple of games. Okay. Okay. That's very different. So World Cup, Tish, do you do anything patriotic? I want to answer sarcastically. I'd be like, I just say USA all day long |
| 2:02.7 | or just scream it. |
| 2:04.0 | I just need chance. |
| 2:05.0 | To scream you and say randomly. |
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