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Cannonball with Wesley Morris

A Horror Movie Halloween Special: The Dread Under the Bed

Cannonball with Wesley Morris

The New York Times

News Commentary, Society & Culture, News, Arts

4.89.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Wesley Morris doesn’t go for cheap jump scares or gratuitous gore. Instead, his favorite horror movies fill him with a sense of dread. This Halloween, he invites film curator Eric Hynes to rewatch scenes from some of the scariest movies they’ve ever seen — some you’ll find in the horror section and some you won’t.

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0:00.0

I'm Wesley Morris, and this is Cannonball.

0:07.3

Today, boo!

0:10.0

Boo?

0:11.2

No, you can save your boo for somebody who cares. Listen, I love a good horror movie, but it's got to be done right.

0:29.0

I have needs.

0:30.6

Don't be trying to jump scare me for no reason.

0:33.9

I do not consent.

0:35.7

Don't be gooseing me with your scares, with sound effects,

0:39.1

because your camera and script don't have the goods.

0:42.7

What I like in a horror movie, what I need,

0:45.6

isn't blood or evisceration,

0:47.8

although the quality I do need could involve gaudges of gore.

0:51.6

I need a very specific feeling,

0:53.5

and blood is not a feeling. You know

0:57.1

what is a feeling, though? Dread. Basically, how afraid am I that this movie is going to show me

1:03.9

something terrible and how long do I have to wait to find out? That's what I love in a good

1:09.4

horror movie, but you don't need to be watching a horror

1:11.6

movie to experience that. So I brought my friend Eric Hines in to try to think through the

1:17.2

pleasures of dread. Eric's the director of film curation and programming at the Jacob

1:22.1

Burns Film Center about an hour away from where we are sitting right now in New York City

1:26.2

in Pleasantville, New York.

1:28.2

Eric.

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