A Different Kind of DEI
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
5.0 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
DEI is all over the news right now. The Right hates it and the Left idolizes it, but what if there was a different way to approach the controversial topic? Esau McCaulley is joined by writer and cultural commentator Marie Beecham for a candid conversation about what happens when DEI and antiracism efforts go off the rails—and what it looks like to chart a better path forward. They talk about Marie's journey through progressive anti-racism, her disillusionment with parts of the movement, and how her faith shaped a more nuanced, hopeful approach.
Want to hear more from Marie? Listen to her podcast, Know Better Do Better.
https://mariebeecham.com/podcast
0:00 - Theme Song
13:00 - Faith and Racial Justice
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22:10 - Ignoring Relevancy
39:25 - DEI
46:50 - Moment of Cultural Shame
52:05 - End Credits
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | PASSION IN MY |
| 0:07.0 | Passion in my pockets where my pennies should be |
| 0:10.0 | where they selling is cheap so I'm buying that this freedom is free |
| 0:13.0 | I've been becoming me see when Jesus taking the lead with purpose I bleed |
| 0:17.0 | and riles like doing under the heat defeat is a never |
| 0:20.0 | you can't reattach with a sever what's bringing you pleasure can tell you where you stacking your |
| 0:24.3 | treasure when storm is your weather know that it gets worse for it's better |
| 0:31.4 | Welcome to the Esau McCauley podcast. I'm your host, Issaa McCauley. And apparently, I do not |
| 0:40.9 | always introduce the producer, because you're the producer, not the co-host. But that's okay. |
| 0:46.0 | I'm going to introduce- You still introduce me, Esau. Okay. I'm going to introduce Mike Strelow. |
| 0:51.3 | You've never said my last name before. He's your last name. Mike Strelow. It's great to be here before. You've never said my last name. Mike Strelop. |
| 0:55.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:56.0 | It's great to be here. |
| 0:57.0 | You're good to be here. |
| 0:58.0 | And this is one of those times where like an internet friendship burgeons into real life. |
| 1:05.0 | I first started seeing Marie Beecham stuff just on Instagram. |
| 1:10.0 | And it was so consistently interesting and intelligent and why. |
| 1:15.5 | I just want to have this woman on the podcast. |
| 1:18.2 | I just want to meet her in person. |
| 1:19.6 | So this is like my way of making friends using my podcast. |
| 1:23.0 | Don't tell the Holy Post stab. |
| 1:24.3 | I'm just bringing my friends on here. |
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