Passion in my pockets where my pennies should be.

What they selling these cheaps?

So I'm buying that this freedom is free.

I've been becoming me.

See when Jesus taking the lead.

With purpose I bleed and riles like going under the heat.

Defeat is never.

You can't reattach

with a sever what's bringing you pleasure can tell you where you stacking your treasure

when storm is your weather know that it gets worse for it's better

Welcome to the Esau McCauley podcast I'm your host Issaa McCau McCauley. I'm joined by our producer, Mike Strelow. Say hello to everyone, Michael. Hi, everyone. It's great to be here. Do I ever call you Michael? Does anyone call you Michael? Is that just me? It's no, it's just you. It's just Mike. But, you know, I'll run with for you, Esau. You can call me anything. We have Mike. And we're also joined by my good friend, Professor Craig Keener.

You're the Professor of New Testament at Asbury. Is that correct? Yes, I'm one of several. One of several. And so this is Holy Week, and this will come out on Monday, Thursday. It will. On the verge of Good Friday and the celebration of Easter. We thought it would be really interesting to say a little bit about, talk a little bit today about the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus with a real live New Testament scholar since I don't really count. I don't know why, even though it's my podcast. I don't count it as a New Testament scholar. I got to bring on a separate New Testament scholar to say stuff that I might also know. But if Greg says it...

I don't trust you he saw, but I trust Craig. That beard also makes him really trustworthy.

The people listen to the podcast. A beard like that. Now, Craig, tell us a little bit about how did you

get involved in New Testament scholarship. Was this something that you always wanted to do? Did you always

want to be a Bible scholar? Or is that something that came to you later in life? Actually, when I was younger, biblical studies was one thing I scrupulously

avoided. I loved studying the ancient world, but I was avoiding that because I was an atheist,

and I just didn't like those kind of things. I thought they were silly until I met Jesus

and he converted me from being an atheist. And so once I met Jesus, I realized that the most

important thing in life was knowing him and serving him and pleasing him.

And so I started cramming the study of the Bible.

I mean, little kids in Sunday school, they knew more about the Bible than I did.

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