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The Esau McCaulley Podcast

The Target Boycott and How the Church Should Think About Money

The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Esau McCaulley

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

5.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Esau, Justin Giboney, and Tish Harrison Warren explore the recent Target boycott led by Black church leaders during Lent and what it reveals about how Christians think (or don't think) about money. They unpack the role of ethical spending, the challenges of discipleship in a convenience-driven culture, and whether the Church should be speaking more directly about where and how we spend. Along the way: the Barbie Movie is Christian, nature is good, and Lebron broke Esau's heart.

 

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0:00 - Theme Song

 

3:13 - Barbie is a Christian Movie?

 

8:35 - The Target boycott

 

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22:56 - Marvin Sapp and Tithing

 

39:08 - Lebron broke Esau's heart

 

43:35 - End Credits

Transcript

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0:00.0

PASSION IN MY

0:07.0

Passion in my pockets where my pennies should be

0:10.0

where they selling is cheap so I'm buying that this freedom is free

0:13.0

I've been becoming me see when Jesus taking the lead with purpose I bleed

0:17.0

and riles like doing under the heat defeat is a never

0:20.0

you can't reattach with a sever what's bringing you pleasure can tell you where you stacking your

0:24.2

treasure when storm is your weather know that it gets worse for it's better

0:33.6

welcome to the esau macaa mccallie podcast I'm your host Issaa McCau On today's episode, we have Justin Gibney Esquire. I didn't realize that, you know, when you have a JD, you're Justin Gibney Esquire. And so I guess, Tish, I got to give you a title now since you are, like, you're ordained. So I call you Reverend Tish Harrison Warren. Is that how you want to do it? Reverend Doctor. I do not have a PhD. But that's okay. Reverend Tish. Reverend. Reverend. There we go. But I mean. No, no, we're going to do it. You asked if that's what I want. Okay. That is not what I want. That's not what you. Okay. I don't think Justin, does Justin want to go by?

1:30.5

Justin, Justin, Esquire? He knew that before he said it. I just want to give him the sophistication. People know that we got degrees and we're educated around here. So we open up this podcast sometime with this game that I'm calling freezing cold takes. And a freezing cold take is not something that you just figure it out and that you're now going to bring.

1:28.1

That's the opposite of a hot take. this game that I'm calling freezing cold takes. And a freezing cold take is not something that you just figure it out and that you're now going to bring.

1:30.5

That's the opposite of a hot take.

1:31.7

It's a take that is shockingly old, but it's exciting to you.

1:35.2

So my freezing cold take is, believe it or not,

1:37.7

a few weeks ago, I was during our spring break here.

1:42.3

And I saw online that Denzel Washington was playing in Othello.

1:48.3

And I was gonna go with my wife.

1:49.7

My wife goes, no, for a variety of reasons.

1:51.5

You ought to fly and go and see Othello with Denzel Washington and Jake Gillinghall.

1:58.3

And I went to going, so I flew to New York on a Friday night show.

2:01.1

I was there.

2:01.6

There's celebrities from all over the place that was in the place.

2:04.9

And here's my freezing cold tape.

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