A Counter-Cultural Guide to Joy: Tauren Wells & Out of Eden
Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith
Jesus Calling
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🗓️ 22 May 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
This week, we’ll hear from Tauren Wells, acclaimed recording artist and lead pastor of Church of Whitestone in Austin, Texas. Raised in Battle Creek, Michigan, Tauren’s early life was steeped in music and shaped by his experiences at a small church and the guidance of a caring youth pastor. In this conversation, Tauren reflects on the things that can steal our focus, the quiet dangers of success, and what it means to live a truly joyful life.
Later in the episode, we’ll hear from Out of Eden, the ground-breaking sister trio who burst onto the scene in the nineties and helped redefine contemporary Christian music. From their early beginnings singing harmonies and choreographing dances in their living room to performing on big stages in nationwide tours, they navigated the pitfalls of growing up in the spotlight with grace beyond their years. Now, thirty years later, they’re reuniting their voices to offer hope to a new generation.
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Interview Quotes:
“There can be so much pressure around success of always elevating, always trying to find the next good thing, [and it] sometimes leaves our soul in a state of despair, because we’ve been focusing on the wrong things, as opposed to the way that Jesus unlocks joy for us.” - Tauren Wells
“Sometimes I have a really hard time differentiating doing things for God and doing things with God. And I think that’s when our heart can be thrown upside down and all we ever feel is anxiety, fear, doubt, and despair, because we flip the beauty of the reality that we get to do life with God.” - Tauren Wells
“There is a relentless joy that flows from being intentionally aware of [God’s] presence.” - Tauren Wells
“Jesus preached the most important message on joy, and it was the first thing that He decided to talk about. How important to the heart of God must our happiness be just based on the priority of the message?” - Tauren Wells
“Happiness and joy have nothing to do with what’s happening around you; it has everything to do with what is happening inside of you. Restoring that sense of gratitude for the ultimate price that was paid to unlock our freedom is so central to all of our lives as believers.” - Tauren Wells
“We found a scripture in Genesis 2:10 that says, ‘A river flows out of Eden to water the garden.’ Once we read that, we knew that was our mission. We grew up in the church, we’ve always been plugged into the Word of God, and we really wanted to use that to minister to those who would be listening to our music.” - Andrea Kimmey-Baca of Out of Eden
“I really do believe that because of our grounding in the Word of God and having a community of believers surrounding us, that we were able to ride the harder waves and talk out the things that were more confusing to us.” - Danielle Kimmey of Out of Eden
“We just wanted to honor the fans who kept our name and our legacy and our music alive.” - Danielle Kimmey of Out of Eden
“We were in an industry that wasn’t really built for our style of music. I think that presented a lot of challenges for us, and gave us the opportunity to not only overcome those challenges, but also have the right heart posture.” - Lisa Kimmey of Out of Eden
“For anyone who is going through these current times—we need hope, we need joy.” - Out of Eden
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| 0:00.0 | Life Audio |
| 0:02.0 | Did you know that Jesus Calling has its own YouTube channel? |
| 0:08.0 | It's full of great content that will enhance your spiritual life. |
| 0:12.0 | You'll find beautiful videos with short devotional moments to help you through your day, |
| 0:16.0 | as well as stories on video from celebrities, authors, pastors, and everyday people who share what their |
| 0:21.9 | faith journey has meant to them. You'll also find that Jesus listens stories of prayer series |
| 0:26.9 | hosted by Susie McIntyre Eaton, featuring new guests monthly. Subscribe today for new videos |
| 0:33.3 | each week. The first thing Jesus tells everyone is not how to be holy, not how to be reputable, not how to |
| 0:43.6 | fulfill the law. |
| 0:45.2 | The first word he says is happy. |
| 0:49.5 | And so how do we access whatever that thing is Jesus was talking about. |
| 0:57.6 | Welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast. |
| 1:00.3 | This week we'll hear from Torin Wells, acclaimed recording artist and lead pastor of Church |
| 1:05.4 | of White Stone in Austin, Texas. |
| 1:07.5 | Raised in Battle Creek, Michigan, Toran's early life was steeped in music and shaped by his |
| 1:12.0 | experiences at a small church and the guidance of a caring youth pastor. In this conversation, |
| 1:17.8 | Torin reflects on the things that can steal our focus, the quiet dangers of success, and what it |
| 1:22.9 | means to live a truly joyful life. Later in the episode, we'll hear from Out of Eden, the groundbreaking |
| 1:28.3 | sister trio who burst onto the scene in the 90s and helped redefine contemporary Christian music. |
| 1:34.4 | From their early beginning singing harmonies and choreographing dances in their living room |
| 1:38.3 | to performing on big stages in nationwide tours, they navigated the pitfalls of growing up in |
| 1:44.1 | the spotlight with grace |
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