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🗓️ 20 May 2025
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Welcome to a special bonus episode of the Jesus Calling Podcast. Today, we’ll hear from a number of guests who have previously appeared on the show, giving us their insights and guidance about what helps them when they experience fear and uncertainty in their lives—including Curtis Chang, Jennie Finch, Dr. Michelle Bengston, Dr. Henry Cloud, and Jesse Hutch.
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0:00.0 | Life Audio |
0:03.6 | Welcome to a special bonus episode of the Jesus Calling podcast. |
0:10.9 | Today, we'll hear from a number of guests who have previously appeared on the show, |
0:15.2 | giving us their insights and guidance about what helps them when they experience fear and uncertainty in their lives. |
0:21.7 | First, we'll hear from pastor and author Curtis Chang. |
0:25.9 | My name is Curtis Chang. |
0:27.9 | I'm a former pastor. |
0:29.2 | I'm currently on Faculty of Duke Divinity School, and I also run my own consulting firm. |
0:34.2 | I also am the executive director of Redeeming Babel, which is a nonprofit that's producing |
0:39.7 | resources to help Christians make sense of this world. |
0:46.6 | What anxiety is, is the fear of some potential loss. And so we all carry that around with us. |
0:53.8 | We all carry around some fear of potential loss. And so we all carry that around with us. We all carry around some fear of |
0:56.5 | potential loss. And our childhoods oftentimes make us especially sensitive or vulnerable to certain |
1:03.1 | types of loss. And what I believe human experience and scripture tells us is that anxiety itself |
1:10.7 | is not a problem to be eliminated. |
1:13.6 | That, in fact, it is actually a fundamental condition of what it means to be human. |
1:18.8 | That to be human is to be vulnerable to loss. |
1:22.0 | That's what it means to be a creature. |
1:23.8 | That's what it means to be human. |
1:26.5 | And so to be human, to be a creature means we are ever |
1:30.1 | always vulnerable to future loss, which means we are ever vulnerable to anxiety. My most |
1:37.1 | devastating experience of anxiety happened because I was living very much in denial that I was suffering from anxiety. So this is when I was a |
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