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🗓️ 21 March 2024
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Today, Calley Means joins the show to march onward on his war path to changing the incentives of modern health. He’s a champion of food and lifestyle practices as medicine—and, in May of this year, he’s putting out a new book on the subject which we outline today, called Good Energy.
His sister, Dr. Casey Means, is the co-author of Good Energy. You know her from a past appearance on this show and as the founder of Levels so this mission really is a family affair in the best way possible.
Going from a food lobbyist to the other side of the fence, Calley is a deeply serious and dedicated champion for the people. But he brings much more to the table today than a polished delivery and a new book; he is also the co-founder of True Medicine, which works to connect tax-advantaged spending to healthy food and exercise.
It’s helped hundreds of thousands of people access affordable care by leveraging the convoluted systems currently in place to block them from doing so—no easy task.
In this conversation, Calley lays the foundation for our food culture as it stands today—bleak, corrupt, poisoned, sick, and getting sicker. We deconstruct the layers of federal agencies and historical precedent that have brought us to this point, and we’re direct in our suggestions (demands) on how to fix it.
And all the facts are laid bare. Dots are connected in broad daylight, on network television, and within the algorithms that power our social feeds. Our kids are at stake, and the only option is to take affirmative action on what we know is right.
(00:01:19) Calley’s Inspirations & Metabolic Mission
(00:11:16) Redefining the Meaning of Medicine
(00:19:21) Is America a Viable Place To Raise Healthy Kids?
(00:30:41) Meaningfully Changing Healthcare Incentives
(00:42:56) Now What—How Does Society Make Positive Change?
(00:49:34) The Media’s Role in Society’s False Narratives
(00:56:49) Undoing the Damage of the Food Pyramid
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0:00.0 | You're listening to the human upgrade with Dave Asprey. |
0:06.0 | Formerly, Bulletproof Radio. Hi. Asprey. Today is a live interview. I love live interviews. I'm doing more and more of them for you. It's here in Austin, Texas because it is South by Southwest where a couple hundred thousand people come in and pretty much destroy all the barbecue capacity in the town for a long time. |
0:36.7 | And then they all leave with just devastation and economic success in their wake. |
0:42.2 | So Kelly, thanks for coming in for a South Bay. Oh, thank you and it's great to be here |
0:46.3 | some great danger coffee. Ah, you're very welcome. It also helps that your company is based here so that might be something else. |
0:52.4 | Guys, Kelly is... company is based here. So that might be something else. |
0:53.0 | Guys, Callie means MD is author of a book called Good Energy. |
0:58.0 | And in it, he makes the argument that Big Pharma and Big food is doing great things for society and if we could just have enough seed oils |
1:07.3 | Sugar and other toxins in our diets we wouldn't have to worry about our health |
1:11.1 | Is right? Did I summarize your book right? I was kind of |
1:13.2 | right. That's about right. Yeah. Okay. The opposite. I don't know you read it. |
1:17.8 | The opposite of what I just said. And it's funny because you are related to |
1:22.0 | someone else who's been on the show. |
1:24.4 | Yeah, my co-authors Dr. Casey Meade. |
1:26.5 | I play a doctor. |
1:27.4 | I'm actually not an MD. |
1:28.3 | Oh, it's Casey Meant, sorry, I was with that. |
1:29.8 | You're not an MD, I saw the MD upside down. |
1:31.7 | I was like, I didn't realize that that okay. I'm the co-author |
1:33.7 | by Casey who's the founder of Lebles has been a deep inspiration for me after 11 years of |
1:38.3 | training as you know she left the system after seeing metabolic health is tied died almost everything and not really talked about |
1:45.0 | and actually suppressed in the medical system and that's deeply inspired me |
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