You're listening to the human upgrade with Dave Asprey.

You're listening to the human upgrade with Dave Asprey.

You've probably heard that well-known saying, when life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

I'm not sure that I really ascribed to that because I'm like if life gives you lemons, you should

probably plant the lemons, like the seeds so they'll grow into more lemon trees and that's one thing.

But if you're having a really bad day you could actually plant the lemon seeds in the bodies of your end. Okay no that's not what I was thinking. Okay Dave.

Let's go. Wait, was that my outdoor voice? I'm just kidding guys. What we're talking

about though is you can have gratitude for a situation even if it looks like it's a really really terrible thing and sometimes you do that around health.

There's a time when I weighed 300 pounds, you've all

probably heard me say that before, but the chronic fatigue syndrome was the real

thing where you just feel like everything you do is an enormous amount of work, just driving, just making a

decision and if you've ever had that kind of what I'm going to call crippling fatigue it's

not about willpower doesn't matter much you want to do it it's everything is

so big and I was there and I climbed out of it in you really, really good place better than I've ever been in my life.

And maybe that's making lemonade, but at the time, it was actually kind of a traumatizing thing.

Your body actually worries about not having enough energy.

So you have like fear of being tired,

which is almost as bad as being tired.

And it takes an enormous spiritual act to turn what can be really

really scary and potentially sort of mess you up mentally for life and turn to something that's good.

So our guest today is someone who's done that, someone well known, who was diagnosed

with a brain tumor and then later another kind of cancer. Her name is Maria

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