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Up Against The Mob

A Beautiful Conspiracy

Up Against The Mob

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Documentary, True Crime

4.91K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Federal prosecutors in New York try a case against the boss of the Genovese crime family—with Anthony Arillotta as their star witness. But will the jury believe a murderer? For more untold stories from the Springfield Mafia and exclusive interviews that explore how law enforcement fights organized crime, head to cafe.com/mob and become a member of CAFE Insider for 40% off the initial annual membership price. You’ll learn about RICO, forensics, trial strategy and more from the people who’ve done it. For show notes and a transcript of the episode head to: https://cafe.com/up-against-the-mob/a-beautiful-conspiracy/ Email us your questions, comments, and reactions to [email protected]. Up Against the Mob is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Hosted by @eliehonig. Follow us on Twitter. Check out other CAFE podcasts: Now & Then and Stay Tuned with Preet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Just a quick note before we begin. This episode features adult language and

0:04.3

descriptions of violence that you'd expect to hear in a podcast about the mafia. So if

0:09.1

you have kids in the room, you may want to listen with headphones. How did you feel on the day of the trial?

0:17.0

Before you took the stand, were you nervous?

0:22.0

Yeah, I was fucking I don't I can't explain it. It was like it was a sickening feeling

0:30.3

After eight years and a ton of law enforcement work, finally we'd arrived at the moment of truth, the trial for Al Bruno's murder.

0:39.5

And it wasn't only about Bruno's murder. We also brought charges for the murder of Gary Westerman,

0:45.3

Anthony Aralata's own brother-in-law,

0:47.6

and for conspiracy to murder, Frank DeDabo,

0:50.4

the union guy who got shot nine times but survived.

0:54.7

Aralato would be testifying against Arde Nigro, the boss of the Genovese crime family,

0:59.8

and we needed him to deliver. But let me be clear, Nigro wasn't the reason for

1:06.0

Arelata's sickening feeling. I could give a fuck less about Arde at this time.

1:11.2

Arilada blamed Nigro for messing up a good thing.

1:15.4

The relatively peaceful and highly lucrative operation the mob had going in Springfield.

1:21.5

What they did to our area was they completely destroyed it with greed and just bad, bad decisions.

1:31.3

Decisions about killing people, extorting people, bringing all the heat with that.

1:35.8

Niagara wasn't the only one facing charges.

1:40.2

In this same trial, we were also going after Freddie and Tai Geis.

1:45.0

And those guys Arilada did care about.

1:49.0

I was hoping they pled guilty or whatever.

1:52.0

I was hoping they cooperated to be honest with you.

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