Just a quick note before we begin. This episode features adult language and

descriptions of violence that you'd expect to hear in a podcast about the mafia.

So if you have kids in the room, you may want to listen with headphones.

When Anthony Arilada agreed to cooperate, he understood that he needed to tell us everything, every bad act, every crime he'd ever committed

no matter how big or how small. So on that first day of questioning in 2010, Erelata did not hold back.

And then he said, just matter of factly,

and I know we're a body buried.

That's Thomas Murphy, the Massachusetts State Police Officer.

He was in the room that day.

I was like, please be Gary Westerman.

Gary Westerman was a low-level drug dealer.

He also was a police informant. In 2003, about three weeks

before Al Bruno was murdered, Westerman just disappeared. It was nothing more than a

missing person. He just turned up missing, but we suspected the guy was dead and he'd been murdered. But there was no body.

And if Erelata could point us to a body, the best possible kind of evidence, our case was about

to get a whole lot bigger.

Which explains Murphy's reaction, because there's something you should understand.

When someone in law enforcement like Tom Murphy hears about a murder like this, he doesn't

respond like an ordinary person.

Neither do I.

For us, there's no disgust, our stomachs don't turn. We actually get excited. Not

excited about the murder, but about what the murder means for our case. It means we can

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