99 Redeeming Heartache: How Past Suffering Reveals Our True Calling (Bonus Episode)
The Place We Find Ourselves
Adam Young
4.8 • 2.5K Ratings
🗓️ 13 September 2021
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Cathy Loerzel and Dan Allender join me today to talk about their newly published book Redeeming Heartache: How Past Suffering Reveals Our True Calling. Cathy and Dan reflect on what redemption actually means in the context of our stories, why they believe redemption is possible, and how our experiences of being an orphan, a stranger, and a widow can shape our sense of personal calling. If you want to engage your story in more depth, consider signing up for The Story Workshop which will be held virtually from October 14-17. You can sign up by going to theallendercenter.org and if you use promo code HOPE21, the $50 application fee will be waived.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the place we find ourselves podcast. I'm Adam Young and it is quite fun to be joined today by both |
| 0:08.1 | Kathy Lorsell and Dan Allender, Kathy Dan, welcome welcome back |
| 0:14.3 | Thank you Adam. I feel like we should just be here most of the time |
| 0:20.7 | It's good to be here Adam. Thanks for having us |
| 0:23.5 | The two of you have written a book together and that's what we're going to talk about today |
| 0:28.9 | It's called redeeming heartache and the subtitle is how past suffering reveals our true calling |
| 0:36.9 | And there's you know, there's a lot in the title. So let's exegete and analyze the title for a bit |
| 0:43.5 | The implication of course is that us human beings experience heartache. Let's start there. What do you mean by heartache? |
| 0:51.1 | Well, anyone who lives east of Eden knows that not a lot works out as you would wish |
| 0:57.3 | I mean, there's just a fundamental understanding that if we live in a fallen world |
| 1:02.8 | It is inevitable. We're going to struggle at least daily with disappointment with frustration |
| 1:10.9 | With heartache. So we really want people to grapple with what sounds like |
| 1:18.6 | Ah, just an utterly negative reality and yet |
| 1:22.4 | The more we honestly name what it's like to live in a world where trauma is inevitable always inevitable |
| 1:32.3 | We've got now the advantage of being able to face what's true rather than doing what at least I know |
| 1:39.6 | I'm very capable of and that is trying to skirt around it try to deny it try to resolve it |
| 1:46.8 | Rather than being willing to say |
| 1:48.8 | This is the nature of life |
| 1:53.6 | So heartache includes and encompasses everything from big tea traumas to small tea traumas to the disappointments that are just part of of life |
| 2:04.1 | Yeah, I think that's true. I mean, I I was actually |
| 2:08.3 | At at a river yesterday with some friends and |
| 2:12.4 | The father in love of our friends got a hold of our book and was reading it which was great |
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