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Okay today I am joined by Kate Boller who is the author of the New York Times Best Seller. Everything happens for a reason and other lies I've loved. Great title.

Kate, welcome to the podcast.

I am so glad to be with you. Thanks for having me.

Yeah so for people we're going to talk about a book that you've written that's coming out but first like for people who don't know you say a little bit about kind of who you are, what you spend your time doing.

Sure, like I'm Canadian and yes I'm that kind of Canadian who brings that up that early in a conversation.

I am a professor of history at Duke Divinity School so I teach kind of pastors and dogooders.

I studied like I wrote a history of the prosperity gospel so book about how people think about health and wealth and whether God is blessing them.

I've also been just living with chronic cancer for well since I was 35 so that has been less than ideal but it does kind of give me a lot of compassion about how we think and talk about the suffering.

So I know you and I care a lot about that topic so I'm excited to talk with you about that today.

I want to make listeners aware of your forthcoming book. We're going to talk about your book.

I've got some quotes from your book that I want to ask you about and it's called No Curr for being human.

But before we get into your book, when I was in college like some of the advice I got was take professors not classes.

Yeah that's great advice.

And I did it and I'm kind of the same way with books like I read authors rather than books.

And so my question is to myself is is this like is this author someone I'd want to like sit down with and invite into my heart and mind for a little while versus like what's the book and what's the book about.

So before we get into the book itself, tell us a little bit about what would it be like to sit down with Kate Boller. What are you passionate about?

Well I am very concerned constantly that I will die of empathy. So I think just feeling kind of like desperately in love with the world is the feeling I have too much of.

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