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. Hello and welcome to another episode of Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.

My name is Alex Doherty and my guest today is Hayne Bashith Zabner.

We talked about his new book, An Army Like No Other, How the Israeli Defence Force Made a Nation.

We discussed how the Zionist project in Palestine depended upon the erasure of the culture

of the pre-World War II Jewish diaspora, why it is that Israeli military operations command

near unanimous support within Israel,

and how Israel's economy has become massively dependent on its military-industrial complex and permanent conflict.

Today's show is brought to you by PTO's supporters on Patreon, and also by Verso Books.

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