I'm not pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for the drive to work,

coronavirus edition. So using my time at home to interview people. So today I have Daniel Holt,

probably the most superfan, Kamagawa superfan in all of R&D. So, uh, hello Daniel.

Hello. Okay, so Daniel, Daniel was on the vision design team, the set design team,

the vision design team for commander, the set design team for commander, the exploratory world building team,

the world building team, uh, the art review for the main set and booster fun. And as always,

he works on the ux, the frames and symbols. So like and Boucherfond, and as always, he works on the

U-X, the frames and symbols. So, like, you did all of that, okay? So let's talk a little bit

about your love of Kamagawa. Yeah, so it all started back when I started Magic. You know,

I started playing back in 2004 with the original Champions of Kamagawa Block. I think I got one

draft of Fifth Dawn and a myrida before it rotated.

And then it was all Kamagawa all the time.

And, you know, when you're a teenager, you can't just continue to get new product every weekend.

So me and my friends would just hang out all the time and just use the cards we had on hand.

And it was all Champions of Kamagawa Block. So we would just rebuild out all the time and just use the cards we had on hand and it was all

champions of kamagawa block so we would just rebuild decks and play those okay so what is your

early so when the set started it wasn't even kamagawa yet so when you first got involved it was

for sure japanese world but not yet kamagawa so what got you what got you involved in the first place? It wasn't even

necessarily Kamagawa. Yeah, so I've been pitching Kamagawa since the day I walked into the building.

You know, our creative leaders definitely got tired of me requesting that over and over. But we were in one

meeting where we had the hole for this set,

and they didn't know what they wanted there, and I pitched Kamagawa because it fit what we wanted.

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