9/30/25: Another shutdown looms as Trump promises loyalty purges
The David Pakman Show
David Pakman
4.6 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 30 September 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
-- On the Show:
-- Senator Chris Murphy, Democrat from Connecticut, joins us to discuss the looming government shutdown, gun violence, and Trump's authoritarianism
-- David breaks down how government shutdowns are a manufactured crisis created in the 1980s that punish ordinary Americans while politicians treat them like a game
-- Grocery prices surge to record levels with beef, coffee, and fruit soaring, exposing Donald Trump’s failed promises to lower costs
-- Leaked texts from Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent reveal officials know Trump’s trade policies are devastating farmers but stay silent
-- Trump stumbles through a chaotic press conference mispronouncing names, complaining about teleprompters, and pushing a doomed Gaza deal
-- Trump openly vows to fire generals and admirals in loyalty tests while floating military action in Venezuela and against cartels
-- Marjorie Taylor Greene defies Trump by backing Epstein document releases and breaking with him on major issues despite her far-right extremism
-- Trump loyalists like Kash Patel and Pam Bondi risk long prison terms under civil rights laws as Rick Wilson warns of Nuremberg-style accountability
-- White House lawyer Lindsey Halligan delivers incoherent remarks minimizing slavery, embodying Trump’s pattern of choosing loyalty over competence
-- On the Bonus Show: Elon Musk and others are named in new Epstein documents, YouTube settles a $24 million lawsuit with Trump, MAGA erupts over Bad Bunny headlining the Super Bowl Halftime Show, and much more…
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(12:28) Leaked texts reveal failing trade policies
(19:14) Trump’s chaotic Gaza press conference
(25:25) Trump’s military loyalty tests and threats
(34:44) Marjorie Taylor Greene defies Trump
(48:00) Chris Murphy interview
(52:50) Trump loyalists face prison risks
(57:26) Incoherent defense of Trump policies
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I have to apologize up front. |
| 0:09.2 | I'm starting with something very negative today. |
| 0:11.8 | I've been getting dozens of questions from some of you. |
| 0:15.0 | David, why haven't you been breathlessly covering the lead up to the potential government |
| 0:19.2 | shutdown? |
| 0:20.2 | The meeting that was supposed |
| 0:21.5 | to happen at the White House with Jeffries and Schumer and then it didn't and then it did. |
| 0:25.9 | And we might close down the government or we might not. |
| 0:28.9 | Let me explain to you, especially for folks who are kind of new here. |
| 0:32.2 | I don't typically cover the day to day political theater of each government shut down. |
| 0:37.4 | Who walked out of which meeting |
| 0:38.6 | and who's holding the bill this time and which party is spinning it better? It is noise in the sense |
| 0:44.1 | that I believe treating every shutdown like a sports rivalry misses the bigger picture. And it is the bigger |
| 0:52.7 | picture where the average person gets crushed. |
| 0:56.9 | The truth is that this entire shutdown ritual is an atrocity and I refuse to cover it like some |
| 1:04.0 | normal part of governing even though it happens again and again and again for no reason. |
| 1:09.4 | This is a contrived crisis. |
| 1:11.6 | It's unique to how our system was set up and it was later twisted into a weapon. |
| 1:17.6 | Now for most of American history, shutdowns didn't exist. |
| 1:21.2 | If Congress was late passing a budget, the government just kept running. |
| 1:26.3 | Agencies didn't grind to a halt. |
| 1:29.4 | Workers didn't get furloughed. The country didn't get pushed back to the brink every single year. |
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