9/29/25: Right wing violence hits church, White House scrambles
The David Pakman Show
David Pakman
4.6 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 29 September 2025
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
-- On the Show:
-- Rahm Emmanuel, former US ambassador to Japan, former Chicago Mayor, and former Obama White House Chief of Staff, joins us to discuss the future of the Democratic Party and speculation about a 2028 presidential campaign
-- Thomas Sanford, a Trump-supporting Marine veteran, attacks a Mormon church in Michigan killing four and wounding eight before dying in a gunfight with police
-- Donald Trump issues a neutral statement on the Michigan church shooting focusing on stopping violence without mentioning political affiliations
-- Trump exaggerates left-wing political violence in 2025 despite data showing right-wing violence remains far more prevalent
-- Karoline Leavitt defends Trump on the Michigan church shooting while trying to downplay partisan implications on national TV
-- Fox News reporters avoid highlighting the Michigan shooter’s pro-Trump and pro-Kirk social media presence to prevent backlash
-- Former White House lawyer Ty Cobb publicly calls reelecting Trump America’s biggest mistake and criticizes his interference in the Comey case
-- Trump announces bailouts for farmers harmed by his tariffs, highlighting the economic consequences of his trade policies
-- Trump posts AI-generated video promising every American a “medbed” for miraculous healing fueling dangerous QAnon conspiracy theories
-- On the Bonus Show: Eric Adams drops out of NYC mayor's race, Missouri governor signs new election map, friends are teaming up to buy homes, and much more...
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(13:18) Trump exaggerates left-wing political violence
(20:51) Karoline Leavitt defends Trump on shooting
(28:24) Fox News downplays shooter’s pro-Trump posts
(31:21) Ty Cobb criticizes Trump publicly
(37:36) Rahm Emanuel interview
(1:04:07) Trump announces farmer bailouts
(1:09:22) Trump posts AI “medbed” video
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome, everybody. |
| 0:08.7 | Hope you had a good weekend. |
| 0:10.0 | A terrible weekend in Michigan for some. |
| 0:12.8 | A Trump supporting Marine veteran opened fire in a Mormon church in Michigan. |
| 0:19.1 | And there's the human tragedy of this. |
| 0:21.4 | There's the reality that Maga World is losing control of their left-wing violence narrative |
| 0:27.4 | that they've been pushing since the killing of Charlie Kirk. |
| 0:30.1 | I'm going to talk about both aspects of this. |
| 0:32.6 | We're going to talk about media coverage. |
| 0:34.6 | There's so this. |
| 0:35.8 | This is in the midst of a horrible tragic event of another |
| 0:40.3 | damn shooting in the United States. There are a lot of stories, a story about violence, |
| 0:46.3 | a story about media coverage. So we're going to get into it here. As I mentioned, this shooting |
| 0:51.8 | did take place at a Mormon church. |
| 0:54.9 | At least four were killed as of this moment. |
| 0:57.8 | At least eight were wounded as of this moment. |
| 1:01.1 | The perpetrator is known to be 40 year old male, Thomas Sanford. |
| 1:07.5 | I guess I should say white male. |
| 1:09.7 | And this is one of these things where it's not that we say that |
| 1:13.6 | for any particular reason of stigma or prejudice, but because these shootings are often analyzed |
| 1:20.9 | through the lens of identity, I guess it's sort of correct for me to say 40 year old white male |
| 1:26.9 | Thomas Sanford, Marine |
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