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The Goal Digger Podcast

897: Hustle Culture Lied to You. What High Achievers Are Afraid to Admit

The Goal Digger Podcast

Jenna Kutcher | Entrepreneurship, Business Strategy & Marketing

Business, Marketing

4.812.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

You’re crushing it: checking boxes, hitting milestones, maybe even growing a team or scaling your business. But if you’re being honest… you don’t really feel it. The joy you expected to come with all of this success? It’s nowhere to be found. If that sounds familiar, then today’s episode is going to feel like a mirror… an empowering one. I’m sitting down with Dr. Judith Joseph, a Columbia-trained psychiatrist, NYU professor, researcher, and social media mental health advocate, and author of the groundbreaking new book High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy. Dr. Judith has worked with high performers from the boardroom to the operating room, and she’s here to unpack a surprisingly common experience: looking like you have it all together, while quietly running on empty. She’s the one who coined the term high-functioning depression and even conducted the first EVER clinical study on it! If you’re building a business, leading a team, and trying to keep it all together while feeling a little “meh” on the inside, this episode is for you. We’re diving into why your emotional flatness might be more than a passing mood, how to spot the signs of high-functioning depression in yourself or your peers, and most importantly, what to do about it. Goal Digger Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/goaldiggerpodcast/ Goal Digger Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goaldiggerpodcast/ Goal Digger Show Notes: https://www.jennakutcherblog.com/hustle-culture-and-high-functioning-depression Thanks to our Goal Digger Sponsors: Sign up for your $1/month Shopify trial period at http://shopify.com/goaldigger.  Find a co-host today at http://airbnb.com/host.  Start your risk-free Greenlight trial today at http://greenlight.com/goaldigger!  Follow This Is Small Business on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

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0:00.0

Nothing makes me happier than doing work that energizes me. And I've always been committed to that,

0:06.8

not just for myself, but for my entire team. That's why I'm so excited about the working genius model.

0:12.6

It's a powerful tool that helps you discover your natural strengths and where you thrive in your work.

0:18.0

When you tap into what you're naturally good at, work becomes more rewarding

0:21.4

and you get so much more done. Honestly, I wasn't sure what to expect when I took the working

0:26.5

genius assessment, but it blew me away with how accurate and insightful it was. It affirmed that I am

0:32.6

naturally gifted at using my intuition and instincts to evaluate and assess ideas or plans. And it also confirmed

0:39.2

my love for self-starters and the fact that I can get frustrated if I have to be the main

0:43.5

source of motivation for other people to get results. The assessment only takes 10 minutes and

0:48.8

it's great for solopreneurs and teams alike. Imagine with me how effortless your teamwork will

0:53.8

be if you understand the

0:55.5

working geniuses of those that you're working with. Working genius is different from everything

1:00.3

else out there because it's 20% personality and 80% productivity. Simply put, if you want to

1:06.4

transform your work life, this is it. Get 20% off the $25 working genius assessment, head to

1:13.2

working genius.com, and enter the promo code gold digger at checkout. That's working genius.com

1:19.1

promo code gold digger. We get so busy with chasing the price tags, you know, the things that we think are markers for

1:28.8

success, but they're not actually making us happier. They make us for worse because we have to keep

1:34.6

them up. We have to keep up appearances. So we're chasing the idea of happiness because it looks

1:39.4

good on the outside, but we're missing out on the experience of joy. I'm Jenna Cudger, your host of the Gold Digger podcast.

1:47.7

I escaped the corporate world at the age of 23 with nothing more than a $300 camera

1:52.4

from Craigslist and a dream.

1:54.4

Now I'm running a seven-figure online business that feels even better than it looks,

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