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I had no money when I started the company.

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I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode.

Hello, everyone.

My guest today is Anders Lassen.

He's a CEO and co-founder of Fuse, a cutting-edge UX tool suite for mobile

app designers and developers. It's currently in beta for Mac and PC. We're going to jump into it today.

Anders, are you ready to take us to the top? For sure, Nathan. Thanks for having you on.

You bet. Okay, so Fuse, it's in beta. By the way, is that code for you have no revenue? No, actually, I don't know where you got that from. We launched in May. So we're actually

in 1.0 now. Okay, very good. So you're 1.0 and you're post revenue. That's right. Very good.

So tell us what the company does and what's your business model. How do you make money?

So the idea is that it needs to be way, way easier to build great apps. And the secret to building

great apps is that, first of all, you need both developers, designers, product owners, and end users

in the mix. It can't just be developers writing code in Java with very slow iteration cycles,

Java or Swift or whatever you need to access

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