I'm not pulling out of the driveway.

We all know what that means.

It's time for other drive to work.

Coronavirus edition.

So I'm using my home time to do interviews because that's hard to do in the car.

So today I have Ian Duke, and we're going to talk about Innostrad Midnight Hunt.

Hey, Ian.

Hey, Mark. Thanks for having me on. I can't believe in nine years. I haven't been on this podcast

with you yet. I know, I know. Especially now, I've been doing interviews every week. So I'm trying

to get as many magic designers on my podcasts as I can. So, okay. So let's talk about, so Midnight

Hunt. So I've talked a bit about my end, like the vision design part of it.

So I want to focus a little bit more on the set design part of it.

So the set is, well, what's your earliest memory of the set?

I mean, I know let's talk a little bit about the team and how it's structured.

And then I want to talk about sort of set design getting the set and where it went from there.

Yeah, so one important thing to mention is that I actually co-led the set with Eric Lauer.

So kind of the flow of things was Ethan Fleischer led the vision design team and then handed that off to Eric Lauer,

who worked on the set for some number of months, and then Eric then handed the set off to me.

So my involvement with the set started probably a couple months into the set design team

when Eric was leading that portion of it, and I came onto the team as a member, so I could

kind of spin up and learn the file and kind of get an appreciation for Eric's vision forward

for the set. And then once I kind of got up to speed, he eventually handed off to me and I took over

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