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People I (Mostly) Admire

87. How Much Are the Right Friends Worth?

People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.62K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Harvard economist Raj Chetty uses tax data to study inequality, kid success, and social mobility. He explains why you should be careful when choosing your grade school teachers — and your friends.

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0:00.0

My guest today is Harvard economist Raj Chetty, who in my opinion is doing the most important

0:10.8

and transformational research of any social scientist on the planet.

0:15.8

You don't need the incredibly complicated statistical tools or moral pick models that can be

0:22.0

useful in lots of contexts and understanding things, but sometimes you can just show

0:26.3

people simple averages and that can tell a lot of the story.

0:31.9

Welcome to People I mostly admire with Steve Levin.

0:38.8

I first saw Raj Chetty present his work when he was only 23 years old and somehow already

0:43.4

completing his PhD.

0:44.4

He was speaking about his dissertation, which was impossibly ambitious.

0:48.8

It combined cutting edge techniques from both macro and microeconomics and it also tried

0:52.8

to make advances in both economic theory and data analysis.

0:57.4

Academic cocks like these almost always felt disastrously.

1:00.8

It's just hard to do so many things well and economists pride themselves on taking a

1:06.1

part freshly minted PhDs who think they know it all.

1:09.8

The room was packed, standing room on me.

1:12.1

I waited for Raj to get destroyed, but to my amazement, he fended off every criticism.

1:18.4

People loved what he had done.

1:20.3

He was obvious at that moment that Raj Chetty would become a superstar, but I don't think

1:25.4

anyone could have predicted the type of research that would ultimately define Raj and change

1:30.8

the way economists think about the world.

1:40.2

It's one of my few regrets as an economist that you and I have never been able to do a

1:44.4

project together because I just love to observe up close how great economists think.

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