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People I (Mostly) Admire

88. Ken Burns on Heroism, Horror, and History

People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The documentary filmmaker, known for "The Civil War," "Jazz," and "Baseball," turns his attention to the Holocaust, and asks what we can learn from the evils of the past.

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0:00.0

My guest today is the renowned documentary filmmaker Ken Burns.

0:09.3

His epic 11-hour miniseries to Civil War is the most watch show in the history of public

0:14.4

television.

0:15.4

He's covered baseball, jazz, the National Park's country music in the Vietnam War, just

0:20.3

to name a few.

0:21.3

But I have to say, as much as I enjoyed his earlier work, nothing he's done has affected

0:26.9

me as deeply.

0:27.9

As his most recent film, I'm the Holocaust.

0:31.6

The film is basically asking at elemental levels, what did we know, what didn't we know,

0:37.7

what should we have known, what did we do, what did we not do, what should we have done?

0:45.5

Welcome to People I mostly admire with Steve Levin.

0:52.9

I've been thinking a lot lately about how people learn, and I've become increasingly convinced

0:57.5

that film is the most powerful teaching tool we have, so I'm really looking forward to

1:02.0

talking today with Ken Burns, who's probably taught Americans more about history than anyone

1:06.6

else.

1:07.8

Hey Ken, thank you so much for being here.

1:14.5

It's an incredible pleasure to talk to you today, even more so because I've recently

1:20.0

moved to Germany, and I'm missing the U.S. and you've come to symbolize America as

1:24.9

much as baseball, hot dogs, and apple pies, so I feel like a little bit more at home with

1:27.9

you here.

1:28.9

Well, if you see the U.S. and the Holocaust, we can connect the bridge, but not in the

1:32.2

best of ways.

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