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People I (Mostly) Admire

86. A Million-Year View on Morality

People I (Mostly) Admire

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Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Philosopher Will MacAskill thinks about how to do as much good as possible. But that's really hard, especially when you're worried about humans who won't be born for many generations.

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0:00.0

My guest today William McCaskill is an associate professor of philosophy at Oxford University.

0:10.1

He's been a pioneer in the effective altruism movement, and his most recent work argues

0:14.8

that humanity should be thinking long-term as to make choices today.

0:18.9

What's long-term in McCaskill's view?

0:21.5

100 years?

0:22.5

No.

0:23.5

He means a thousand years, a hundred thousand years, or even a one million year perspective.

0:31.0

If I can prevent a genocide for certain in a thousand years' time or eleven thousand

0:35.0

years' time, well, both equally bad if they're going to inflict the same amount of harm.

0:39.7

The mere location in time does not matter.

0:45.7

Welcome to People I mostly admire with Steve Levin.

0:51.5

I've had more than 80 guests on this podcast, but not a single philosopher, and that's not

0:56.5

entirely by accident.

0:58.4

I generally don't have much in common with philosophers.

1:00.8

They tend to focus on big, complicated questions.

1:03.6

I like little questions that I can wrap my head around.

1:06.2

They view the world through a lens of morality, whereas I'm much more comfortable thinking

1:10.0

like an economist where the focus is efficiency, and they often use big words that I only

1:14.8

half know the meaning of.

1:17.4

From what I know about Wil McCaskill, he's not that kind of a philosopher.

1:21.9

So let's see how it goes.

1:28.8

So will do you remember how I came to blurb your book doing good better?

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