I'm Levy Dalton and this is all drink to that where we get behind the scenes of the wine business. Oh, Bill Fitch on the show today of Hillside and also Vinegar Hill House in Brooklyn.

Hello, sir, how are you?

Hello, I'm fine, thank you. How are you now?

Now, even better.

So, so buddy, you were, you weren't so into the wine originally,

but you were doing some other stuff and you know what

kind of happened along the way?

Yeah I didn't really, it wasn't in the, I would say the mid to late 80s the whole idea of a

some lee was something that was that happened somewhere else it was far away

wasn't really an option at least to me in Oregon.

But I got into it through perfume.

I was really into olfaction

because I hadn't been able to smell for a little while

for maybe a year and a half, who knows.

What was that about?

What was the nut smelling about?

How did that have?

I had broken my nose a lot. I was Oregon, lots of mold in Oregon. I'm not sure, but I had a

cluster of polyps, disgustingly in my sinuses, and I just hadn't noticed that I couldn't smell but when I couldn't breathe I had to go to the hospital and after surgery the doctor told me that I hadn't probably been able to smell for a while.

And I got really into perfume after that.

I remember the first thing I could smell after the antibiotics and the painkillers wore off. It was Molokotani soup. But anyway, I got into perfume and I used to spend way too much money on women's perfume and spray my pillow at night and obsessing about

the ingredients of the stories behind the perfumes. And basically a friend sort of took pity on me and told me that wine was also

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