Something I'm really curious about. I've done a lot of reading since I started this show and one of the things that keeps coming up as a constant way to maintain your life and maintain the things that you want to hold on to in your life is to build really good habits,

build really good routines, especially ones that have to do with self-care.

And I'm really curious, like, what do you have in your life that has been a constant for you

that has allowed you to, at the very very least start your day well or end your day well or just

know that you can always rely on this.

Well I think because I did grow up on our farm, routines were very normal for us, ingrained in us.

And I just, I have routines every day. I relax while I'm eating breakfast. I'll play game on the computer just to relax myself and put me in the right frame of mine for the day.

Before I get up in the morning, I would say I meditate or pray for 10 minutes. I put it's more putting my intention out to the

universe what I want for myself and making sure I stick to that. I know what's important to me and my values.

So how did you go about, and it sounds like you started with this sort of major advantage that that people

often don't have of like you grew up relying on routine in order to get things done and that's just sort of the environment that you existed in.

Did you find it difficult to build your own routines that maybe weren't required of you but were things you just chose to do?

Not really, I don't think, except when I was depressed. Like I couldn't read a page when I was depressed. I couldn't. But once I discovered self-improvement

books, I just devoured them like crazy. I had to learn that I hadn't

had good boundaries in the past and it's okay to say you know there's certain people I want to spend a lot of time with because you feel energized and happy after being around them and there's

certain people you don't want to spend a lot of time with and I had to put up

boundaries in a delicate way without hurting people's feelings.

But now I know, like I said, what's important to me?

Something I'm really curious about as it relates to bipolar disorder and just that cycle of

mania and depression.

How has your connections to those friends,

to your family helped you when that sort of shows up again?

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