I'm not pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work.

Coronavirus edition. Okay, so I've been doing this thing where I've been sitting down with different designers and talking about sets that we made.

So today I have Ethan Fleischer talking about Kaldheim.

Thanks for having me, Mark.

So I'm excited.

Coulthime was a fun set.

So let's go back to the very beginning.

So here's a little bit of trivia here that you and I know, but the audience doesn't know.

Originally I was going to leave Cull Time, because originally Cull Time was going to be where Zendikar Rising came out.

It was going to be the fall set. And... During this time, you were cold time was going to be where Zendika Rising came out. It was going to be the fall set.

And...

During this time, you were the only person leading fall sets, because you are magic's head designer.

Usually they have me leave the fall sets.

That's traditionally how I've done it, but I don't always, but often I do.

But anyway, then they moved it.

They moved it to be... to coming out the next set.

And so I couldn't do it because I was doing the fall set.

So I was doing Zednikar Rising.

So I tagged you.

So let's talk a little bit about, because you were very eager to do this.

So let's talk about you and your desire to do the set.

Yeah, I just love top-down sets and culturally inspired sets.

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