I'm not pulling out of my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for other drive to work, coronavirus edition.

So I've been having different various R&D folk of present and past to come talk about sets.

And here's something I've never done before. Talk about the new set with somebody. So I have brought on Ari Me. So Ari, hi. Hi, Mark. How are you today? So we're going to talk

Strickson Haven today. So this was the very first set you worked on, correct? Yes, that is correct.

But not the first one to come out, right? No, I was on teams for sets that have come out before. Like I was on Caldheim, I was on M21, but when I walked into the building and you, you know, got pulled into meetings to start designing stuff like Strickshaven was the first meeting, the first set that I was working on.

Okay, so, and you were on, we started on exploratory.

So you were on the exploratory design team, you were on the vision design team,

you were on the set design team, right?

You were.

I was on set just for a little bit.

Just for a little bit.

Okay.

Okay, so let's.

All of vision and most of exploratory.

We're going to go way back to the very beginning. So what is your memory of the very

beginning of Strick-Saven? It's called fencing and design. Right. So we knew it was going to be

opposite color, enemy color schools, like five schools, mage factions within a university. We knew it was

going to be an instant and sorcery themed set,

because that was something people had been asking for for a long time, and it fit the creative

really well to have a wizard university that's about instance and sorceries. We knew we wanted

these opposite, the enemy color factions, to be based on the conflict instead of on the overlap.

So they were going to be pretty, pretty different from the corresponding

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