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My guest today is Timothy Snyder. Timothy Snyder is professor of history at Yale University

and a permanent fellow at the Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna. He received his doctorate

from the University of Oxford, where he was a martial scholar. Before joining the faculty at Yale

in 2001, he held fellowships in Paris, Vienna, and Warsaw, and an academy scholarship at Harvard.

He has spent some 10 years in Europe and speaks five and reads 10 European languages.

He's also written for the New York Review of Books, Foreign Affairs, The Times Literary Supplement,

The Nation, and The New Republic, as well as for the New York Times, the International

Herald Tribune, The Wall Street Journal, and other newspapers. He's a member of the Committee

on Conscience of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, and he's the author of several

award-winning books, including the Red Prince, Bloodlands, Europe Between Hitler and Stalin,

and Black Earth, The Holocaust as History and Warning. His latest book, On Tyranny, 20 lessons

from the 20th century, which is what we focused on, is currently number one of the New York Times

bestseller lists for nonfiction in paperback. As you'll hear, this is a timely conversation,

but please take my early admonishments about the nonpartisan nature of this conversation

for what they are. We do talk a lot about Trump, but whether or not Trump is actually an example

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