Welcome to the Not Old Better Show and Your Host, all Vocal Sang.

Brad Googesang.

Brad Gooch is a poet, novelist, and a biographer, and whose most recent book is

Rumi's secret, the life of the Sufi poet of Love.

Among his previous 10 books are Smash Cut, a memoir of Howard and Art and the 70s in the 80s.

Flannery, a life of Flannery O'Connor, which was a National Book Critics Circle Award

Finalist, a New York Times notable book of the year, and a

New York Times bestseller, and City Poet, The Life and Times of Frank O'Hara.

Brad Gooch has received a National Endowment for the Humanities Fellowship and a

furthermore grant in publishing from the J.M. Kaplan Fund, a professor of English

at William Patterson University. Brad earned his PhD at Columbia University and lives in New York City.

Author Brad Gooch appears live at the Ripley Center in Washington, D.C. Wednesday, March 1st, 2017.

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were joined today live via Skype

on the Not Old Better Show by author Brad Gooch.

Well, Brad Gooch, thanks so much for joining us today.

Brad, I'm a fan of yours. I'm a fan of Rumi's and many still might not be completely familiar with who

roomi is they might know his work but tell us you know, why is Rumi important?

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