I'm not pulling out of the driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for other drive to work, coronavirus edition. Okay, so today's interview. We're going way back into the past to do an R&D, a classic member of R&D from days gone by. So Henry Stern's with us.

Hi, Mark. That'd make you feel old there with a...

A little bit, but not too bad.

I'm also from the same time period, to be clear, so...

Okay, so I started the question to ask everybody, which is how did you get into magic?

Yeah, so for me, I was in college at the time, I think, or maybe just out of college.

But I remember looking for like a Christmas gift and I was in the game store and the people, this was 94, 94, right?

Well, 93 is when the game came out.

That's when alpha and beta came in 93.

So this is... Unlimited is 94.

Ended in 93, early 94.

Yeah, I think so. This was Christmas than 93, I suppose.

Okay, yeah.

As in the game store, the people were all huddled about the counter, talking about

this and that, and this new card game, and it was in the game store and people were all huddled about the counter talking about this and that and this new card game and it was really exciting and i bought some packs and i guess so the packs i bought were unlimited were unlimited and i guess so the packs i still had packs i'm sorry

yeah that's early unlimited some of them were blackboarder but some of them were whiteboard it's kind of weird but that's how they were back then, that's early unlimited. They still had beta cards. Yeah, some of them were blackboarder, but some of them were whiteboarder.

It's kind of weird, but that's how they were back then.

And that's how I got myself and a friend into the game and got sucked in pretty quickly to that and to the whole a little bit of the tournament scene.

And there was this crazy guy that worked at a game store,

knew what I worked, who let you trade, like, any rare card for any other rare card at the game

store. Yeah, so real quickly, so the audience knows he's talking about me.

Yeah. So that's how he got Mark, because Mark worked at a game store at the time, and he was

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