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The History of Literature

782 Consent in the Regency Novel (with Zoë McGee)

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

History, Arts, Books

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Ever since the novel was invented, women have used it as a platform for sharing ideas about sexual consent. In this episode, Jacke talks to Dr. Zoë McGee about her new book Courting Disaster: Reading Between the Lines in the Regency Novel, which compares classic novels by Jane Austen, Frances Burney, and others with historic court records to show that today's arguments about consent are not a new phenomenon. PLUS Jacke reads a letter from Chekhov in which he describes the experience of watching a disastrous performance of his first play, Ivanov. The music in this episode is by Gabriel Ruiz-Bernal. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gabrielruizbernal.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Help support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/literature⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠historyofliterature.com/donate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The History of Literature Podcast is a member of the Podglomerate Network and Lit Hub Radio.

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0:40.3

Hello, we begin today with a quote from poet Adrian Rich.

0:43.9

Quote, I believe any woman for whom the feminist breaking of silence has been a transforming

0:48.4

force can also look back to a shock of recognition at certain lines, phrases, images in the work of this or that

0:57.7

woman long dead whose life and experience she could only dimly try to imagine.

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End quote. It's one of the great pleasures of reading to see that we are not alone, to see that

1:09.2

our troubles are not new, that others have

1:11.2

faced them and persevered and triumphed, except sometimes these pleasures are more like pain.

1:17.9

My goodness, you mean this is still happening?

1:21.8

Clear-eyed writers, famous and revered writers, pointed this out to us hundreds of years ago,

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and it's still happening today.

1:30.2

Will the problem never end? Ah, humanity. I say pleasure and pain. But really the adjective I should

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have used is that it's compelling, illuminating, edifying, inspiring, consoling, thought-provoking. And today, discussion-provoking, too. Our guest has looked back

1:48.9

at the novels from the Regency period, that's the era, led by Jane Austen, and she's looked at a

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