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The History of Literature

783 Southern Imagining (with Elleke Boehmer) | My Last Book with John McMurtrie

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

History, Arts, Books

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The world has a northern bias: our politics, culture, and literature all tend to view the northern viewpoint as the default position, leaving the far southern latitudes (Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, and Southern Africa among others), as a faraway land full of strangeness. But what if you live in those lands? How can a strange, faraway place be home? In this episode, Jacke talks to Elleke Boehmer about her book Southern Imagining: A Literary and Cultural History of the Far Southern Hemisphere, which analyzes the impact of the world's northern bias on literature and culture--and offers an alternative perspective to the way we usually look at the world. PLUS John McMurtrie (Literary Journeys: Mapping Fictional Travels Across the World of Literature) stops by to discuss his choice for the last book he will ever read. The music in this episode is by Gabriel Ruiz-Bernal. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gabrielruizbernal.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Help support the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/literature⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠or ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠historyofliterature.com/donate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:08.8

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0:20.6

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1:00.2

Hello, we start today with an anecdote.

1:02.7

After I graduated from high school, I made a move from a small town in Wisconsin to study

1:08.1

in Chicago, a city of millions of people, the biggest city that I had ever been in.

1:13.7

My attitude was, I can't believe you guys live here.

1:17.2

This is insane.

1:18.9

There's so much to do.

1:20.2

You're so lucky to be in this enormous city.

1:23.6

And yet Chicago called itself the second city, knowing it was forever the runner-up to New York.

1:32.8

It wasn't the second city to me.

1:35.2

It wasn't small or second best or the little brother or anything like that.

1:39.7

It took me a while to absorb this feeling of being in the second city, but I eventually did,

1:46.3

especially after I'd been to New York.

1:49.0

It's strange to define yourself by where you live, but it's even stranger to define yourself

1:56.0

or to feel that you're being defined by somewhere you don't live.

2:01.5

And literature is always about definitions and self-definitions.

2:05.7

It's often the plot of the book.

2:06.9

Who is this person?

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