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You gotta flood the zone. Gotta flood the zone.

Remember what flood the zone is?

That is what Steve Bannon says is the technique by which you can sneak anything past the public.

You flood the zone with so many stories that nobody can pay attention to anyone's story.

You flood the zone.

You overwhelm the census.

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