I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Hey, I'm Adam Carolla.

Hi, my name is Penn Gillette.

Not only listening, I'm a guest.

I'm a pen and teller, and I am the fourth listener.

And I am the fourth listener.

And that must make me at least the fourth listener.

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And welcome to what absolutely, positively, 100% promises to be a fascinating episode of dogma debate because I have Wayne.

Wayne is an author.

He's written, I believe, three books.

And Wayne will tell us all about that in a moment.

And he is a, wait, what was that word you just used with me?

I'm a preterist.

I'm a preterist.

You're a preterist, which you were telling me means that you think the Bible has

already completely fulfilled. It's done. There's no prophecy left to be fulfilled. It's all over.

The Bible is, you know, part one and we're on to the sequel or whatever. Why don't you explain to me

what I'm trying to say because these are new terms to me.

This is a new concept to me.

So welcome to the show, Wayne.

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