I'm not pulling out of my driveway. We all know what that means.

It's time for the drive to work, coronavirus edition.

Okay, so I've been doing lots of fun interviews, so I've dug back in the time machine to go back in the vast.

And I'm talking today with Brian Hacker.

Hey, how's it going, Mark? How are you? Good to be here.

Okay, so I'm going to ask you the question I ask everybody to

start with, which is, how did you get into magic? Yeah, how I got into magic was kind of odd. There was a

there was like a virtual world, which was like this mech fighting game, and it was it was right next to a game store, and I used to play this mech fighting game and it was it was uh it was right next to a game store and i used to play this

mec fighting game once in a while and i would walk by the game store and i saw like all these

people playing this game and um just kind of didn't think anything of it and uh my girlfriend at the time

uh really liked card games and so i like put two and two together and I was

like oh oh you know hey why don't I go see if this card game is she might like it so kind of popped in

and oh it's something called magic the gathering it's like what what is it magic you know doing

trips or something and just didn't understand it at all. But I bought some cards and like taught

both of us how to how to play. And then I just got very into it and like kind of ruined it for her

and got way too competitive about it, sort of going to, you know, little tournaments around town. And then, yeah, and then she,

she broke up with me kind of because of it. And so I lost the girlfriend, but I gained a great

thing in my life. So it was kind of funny. Okay. So when was this? When did you start playing?

What, what was your first set? My first set was, I suppose it was like revised

slash fallen empires was out. And I think actually like revised had sold out at the time.

It was waiting on another reprint or more cards to come in. So like the only thing I could buy

at the time was Fallen Empire or yeah, Fallen Empires, I think is that what it's called? There's a second Fallen Empires.

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