I'm not pulling out of my driveway. We all know what that means.

It's time for another edition of Drive to Work, Coronavirus Edition.

So I've been using this to talk to people, people that make magic and are connected to magic.

So today I have a special guest, Matt Tayback.

So say hi.

So Matt, say hi one more time.

Hey, Mark.

How's it going?

Sorry, I talked over you.

Okay, so I want to do today is I want to talk about sort of how you got into magic,

how you came to Wizards, and what is you do at Wizards?

Because I want, I'm hoping all these interviews can help people see the breath of all the people who make the game,

because there's a lot that goes into it.

Well, absolutely, Mark.

First off, thank you for having me.

Out of all the people who make magic, I am certainly one of them.

So I don't know if you're, this is the bottom of the barrel for you. I don't know who you haven't you interviewed yet, but you finally got to me, and I appreciate that.

Well, no one else returned my phone call, and so I...

Okay, so let me start from the beginning.

This is a question I'm asking everybody, which is how did you get into magic?

Okay, picture it, Sicily, 1994, except for it's not Sicily. That's a golden

girl's joke, which no one listening to you will understand. I actually got started. It was

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