I'm not pulling out of my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work, coronavirus edition.

So what I've been doing for these, because I'm recording them at home, is I had the opportunity to have guests on, which are a little harder to do in my car.

So today, I have the VP of Magic, Bill Rose. So Bill say hi.

Hello, Magic fans.

So Bill and I have worked together a long time.

You started three weeks.

Three weeks before me?

Yeah, 25 years.

Okay, so we're going to go back to the very beginning, Bill, because you start very early.

You've been playing Magic longer than almost anybody so yeah i'll i'll throw out a weird claim here there's only a handful of people who started before me i think i'm the the person in the world who's played long

magic the longest consistently like i've never taken a break from magic.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think that might be true.

Yeah.

Okay, so let's talk about you starting.

So, I mean, I know this, but the audience doesn't know this.

So how did you start playing magic?

I started playing magic because I was a friend of

Richard Garfield. We played bridge together, of all things. Richard came to UPenn and joined the

bridge club that I was playing in, and he's a gamer and I'm a gamer. And we just started playing

with my friends and Richard's friends. and we just started playing with my friends and

Richard's friends we all just started playing games together. I think like Robo Rally was one that

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