I'm not pulling out of my driveway. We all know what that means. It's my drive to work,

coronavirus edition. So I've been asking different people that make magic or have made magic

to come on my show. So today I have Donald Smith Jr. So welcome Donald.

Yeah, what's up? So why don't we start by telling people what you do?

What is your job?

Yeah, so I'm on play design.

So we do the competitive balance for limited and standard.

And, yeah, I mean, that's really the gist of it.

Okay, so let's start from the beginning.

How did you get into magic?

All right, so I was in college.

I actually started pretty late compared to most professional players and most Wizards employees.

So I started in right when Theros, the original Theros came out.

And I've always been like a competitive player at heart. So I got like super into the LGS

tournament scene, started going to Grand Prix and just kind of worked my way up the professional

chain and then landed at Wizards.

Okay, so you, what was your best performance at a ProTor?

Yeah, I got top four at Pro Tour Ather Revolt.

That was my best performance.

And then other than that, I don't have any huge finishes, but I chained a lot of, like,

top 32s and whatnot. And I actually got a World's Inv finishes, but I changed, like, a lot of, like, top 32s and whatnot.

And I actually got a world's invite. So that's, like, those two are my two best

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