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Hey everybody. We've got a gruesome one today for a change. Brian Fogel, the producer of The Dissident, a documentary about

Jamal Khashoggi's life, his admirable life, and grisly death. We'll provide some insight into

why Mohammed bin Salman ordered the murder of this brilliant principled and courageous journalist.

I don't know if you'll enjoy this conversation, but it's an important one, I think.

The Saudis are bitter enemies of Iran, and I suppose the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but this is a case

where the enemy of my enemy is a brutal sadistic dictator.

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